Tuesday, April 22, 2025

Matthew 7:1 Pride


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Who am I to judge?

--Pope Francis, 2013

 In a televised interview, where we spoke with natural and conversational language, it is understandable that there would not be such precise definitions...It is not the first time that I speak of homosexuality and of homosexual persons. And I wanted to clarify that it is not a crime, in order to stress that criminalization is neither good nor just...When I said it is a sin, I was simply referring to Catholic moral teaching, which says that every sexual act outside of marriage is a sin. Of course, one must also consider the circumstances, which may decrease or eliminate fault...As you can see, I was repeating something in general. I should have said, "It is a sin, as is any sexual act outside of marriage,"...This is to speak of  "the matter" of sin, but we know well that Catholic morality not only takes into consideration the matter, but also evaluates freedom and intention; and this, for every kind of sin...And I would tell whoever wants to criminalize homosexuality that they are wrong.

--Pope Francis, 2023

In the past I've thought about making Francis the subject of one of these "Pride" posts that I periodically do whenever a public figure says something positive about the LGBTQ community, especially if that public figure is themself not known to be LGBTQ (after all, they have less incentive to say something positive.) Instead, I held back. For one thing, this blog is not particularly tailored to the sensibilities of Roman Catholics. Don't like your church's (pre-Francis) stand on homosexuality? Then go find some other church! Also, I thought there was quite a bit of equivocating in that 2023 quote. I wanted something more forthright. And he says nothing about gay marriage, the lack of which dooms a gay sin-averse devout Catholic to a lifetime of...celibacy (hmm, let's not go there.)

As you can see, I've changed my mind. What changed that mind? Well, I thought, there are a lot of Roman Catholics in the world. Having lived all my life so far in the Cleveland area, I've certainly met my fair share of them (starting with my parents, who practiced a lapsed version of the faith.) Then there's this:




That picture was taken just yesterday outside the Papal Basilica of Saint Mary Major, where the late pope will be laid to rest. As I understand it, that flag is not being waved in protest but in support of Francis and his stand on LGBTQ matters. It's a reminder to me that some people can't change their belief systems as easily as I can change what toppings I put on my burger. One small step for a gay secularist or gay humanist is one giant leap for any gay person who would just as soon accept their church's teaching, especially when their church's teaching accepts them. Who am I to judge?

17 comments:

  1. The notion of a pope being progressive seems almost counter-intuitive, but I suppose we take our gains where we may. Some still cling to the pronouncements of an entire cadre of celibates in Rome as the guard rails for their lives, so papal acceptance of all is (albeit guardedly) a step forward. I suspect there are homosexuals among his associates, so it is recognition of the obvious.Perhaps the next step will be equality for women. Now I’m really getting ahead of myself!

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    2. David, as a U.S. citizen I can't criticize too much (a la John 8:7) the glass ceiling that exists within the Catholic Church. Whenever a woman runs for president in my country, look who we keep ending up with!

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  2. He was better than what came before and fought against a powerful foundation. I don’t have much good to say about the Catholic Church.

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    1. Aw, c'mon, Mitchell, you live in Spain. Look how good those Catholics are (or were) when it comes to architecture and interior design!

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    2. You got me there, Mitchell.

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    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Df191WJ3o

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  3. Everything's relative. Francis' pretty basic comments were positive and supportive in the context of leading a deeply homophobic and authoritarian organization.

    I find it interesting that Francis is going to be interred at Saint Mary Major and not in the papal crypt underneath the floor of St Peter's Basilica. I thought all popes just automatically went into the papal crypt? Surely it's not full?

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    1. Debra, it was Francis' own choice to be buried there. Apparently, it was a church that he very much liked.

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  4. I'm not very religious nor do I go to church and I don't pretend to know all about the Pope or his true standings, but per my late grandmothers advice, she always said go with your gut feelings, and I think overall he was a good man and meant well and set examples...and addressed issues many others didn't...compared to many other Popes who could have done more, but swept in under the rug. I shudder to think they may now go back the other way as ultra conservative. I hope not. It already seems every country is becoming conservative one by one.....

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    1. Ultra conservative? You know, JD Vance was one of the last people to see Pope Francis alive...

      All kidding aside, Maddie, I think it depends on whether Francis was operating as a lone wolf (a conservative might say loose cannon) or whether he represented a liberal movement within the church, a movement that's possibly on the upswing. I don't know how all those cardinals go about deciding on a pope, and if you ask them, they'll just tell you that God made them do it!

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  5. I like your balanced take on Francis. He was so many firsts: Jesuit, South American, but the mainspring that gave me hope as a former practicing Catholic, hundreds of years in the family, was being a Jesuit. I have found them tolerant and intelligent on the realities of lay people's lives. Not surprising that he was open to the reality and holiness of gay life.
    I hope we don't get a reaction now with a conservative successor.

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    1. Boud, I'm glad that you brought up that Francis was a Jesuit. As I understand it, Jesuits are the freethinkers of the Catholic church.

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  6. I am not religious person, in fact the opposite. I did not pay attention to him or anything in the news. I remember being dragged to church at High School and the minister was a female. I always thought that was cool. As David says maybe equality for women should be next. Shame he died though, RIP.

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    1. The minister was female? Ananka, can I safely assume this wasn't a Catholic church you were dragged to? My own UU church has a female minister. Since I didn't start attending until about two years ago, after a lifetime of
      having never attended church (other than the occasional funeral or wedding) she's the only minister I've ever known!

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    2. No it wasn't a RC church!! This was back in the early 90s when I was in High School, so ahead of her time maybe!

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