tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post6654985386242182207..comments2024-03-28T20:00:20.542-07:00Comments on SHADOW OF A DOUBT: Quips and Quotations (Comediennes Edition)Kirkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-12906153409446446252017-09-19T08:22:42.454-07:002017-09-19T08:22:42.454-07:00Liz Taylor was very much involved in AIDS charitie...Liz Taylor was very much involved in AIDS charities, at a time when a lot of celebrities wanted nothing to do with it.Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-55018711816213644722017-09-18T06:33:57.506-07:002017-09-18T06:33:57.506-07:00In defense of Ms.Taylor,she was a true humanitaria...In defense of Ms.Taylor,she was a true humanitarian.To go vulgar as Ms.Rivers did was not my cup of tea.Ms.Tomlin is my favorite comedian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-50265228825930295782014-09-15T08:13:20.419-07:002014-09-15T08:13:20.419-07:00Postino, crudity in and of itself doesn't both...Postino, crudity in and of itself doesn't bother me. You're talking to an old George Carlin fan. I would have laughed at the vagina joke. I just think crudity combined with a kind of mercenary ambition is kind of a turn-off to me. I thought Rivers was inevitably closer to someone like Andrew Dice Clay than Carlin or Richard Pryor. I saw Clay perform live once when I was in my '20s, and laughed at lot of his stuff, but didn't leave the concert thinking there was much artistry there. Of course, a lot of people could care less about artistry when watching a comedian. At one time I could care less about it, but I do now.Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-7783476895687171832014-09-14T15:41:27.318-07:002014-09-14T15:41:27.318-07:00I don't disagree with your assessments of Rive...I don't disagree with your assessments of Rivers, although I don't think she was doing anything much different than a lot of comedians. There is a culture of meanness (goes along with the profanity) in comedy nowadays, something I don't remember from my days watching Jack Benny or Bob Hope (even if Hope get off some Bing Crosby zingers). <br /><br />I don't think it is particularly funny to point out the obvious. Yes, Liz Taylor was fat. So what? I wish I could lose 20 lbs. I just didn't see the humor in the observation.<br /><br />I pointed out to my wife the last performance I saw of Rivers on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon where she said, "My vagina is so dry...when I got in the bathtub it sucked up all the water." I thought that was unbelievably crude and yet I was laughing at the sheer outrageousness of it. I compared it to over 40 years go when I saw Mickey Rooney making a joke to Johnny Carson about the Andy Hardy movies he starred in. He said, "They don't make girls like Polly anymore..." He followed it with a punchline which was totally bleeped out by the network. I don't know what he could have said that was so bad, but I'll bet it wasn't even in the same territory as Rivers' dry vagina.<br /><br />Rivers did one thing (inadvertently) that I wish I could order up for myself. She was 81 and still much in demand. She went in for a medical procedure, was put out and never came back. She died as if she had just gone to sleep and passed away. I wish all deaths were all that easy.Postinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853607848670921106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-59267273821648010102014-09-10T09:24:38.293-07:002014-09-10T09:24:38.293-07:00acckkkkk !
Lily Tomlin I lurve her !
This is why I...acckkkkk !<br />Lily Tomlin I lurve her !<br />This is why I am not a writer. Besides mangling the English language I write what I am thinking at the time. <br />That is why I like blogging because comments are usually fast and short. But your posts are always so full of information and your feeling, I just charge through.<br />This is also why I am not a writer but I do write haiku.<br /><br />cheers, parsnipangryparsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17236094827257446781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-91538103778830239462014-09-10T08:23:54.380-07:002014-09-10T08:23:54.380-07:00Your bent opinion is welcome any time, parsnip.
...Your bent opinion is welcome any time, parsnip. <br /><br />While on the subject of female stand-up comedians, there's also the great Lily Tomlin. I didn't use a quote from her (and indeed have no idea what she thought of Rivers) because she got her start around the same time as Joan, so most likely didn't regard her as an influence or inspiration. I chose women at least a generation or more younger than Rivers, who would have seen her as an established star when they were coming up.Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-75897661111982132032014-09-09T12:18:58.916-07:002014-09-09T12:18:58.916-07:00"Can We Talk ?"
Very interesting review..."Can We Talk ?"<br /><br />Very interesting review. Love your comment to Kass ( Hi Kass, wave)<br /><br />I like Joan but I like her less when she was overly cruel. It is just not my way to poke (and I kept trying to give my x the benefit of a doubt and he was a sociopath) and point out anyone's problems like Taylor's. But if they say and do things then they have put it out there and I guess it is fair game for anyone. <br />I grew up with Joan and Phylliss Diller seeing women in a male dominated work place I give them all the credit to keep working at what they wanted to do. I think men say blah blah blah yes I understand women "can" be working but in reality most men think women as less. There was a new report out today about women getting less money when they have children while men with children get more for the same job. I will blog about this.<br /><br />Women have to slog through lots of crap that most men do not. While a man is brilliant at work and a great business man a women who does the same job is a bitch.<br />So I give Joan a lot of credit.<br />I like Margret Cho and Rita Rudner but not Lene Dunhan. She has sold out big time to get more attention of the press much like Kathy Griffin.<br />She goes out supposing not caring what she wears and looking bored, sad and ugly. So that people will comment on how she looks and acts. Not her comedy. So don't pin your hopes on her. She is playing the press. And that photo of her is the best one I have ever seen. Just my bent opinion.<br /><br />cheers, parsnip <br /><br />cheers, parsnip<br /><br /><br /><br />angryparsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17236094827257446781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-39395722115621259522014-09-08T07:52:57.487-07:002014-09-08T07:52:57.487-07:00Thank you, Kass. It's amazing how many words I...Thank you, Kass. It's amazing how many words I can squeeze out of mixed feelings. Had I liked her more, I probably would have written a lot less!Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-635884225797829085.post-47228732565101813712014-09-08T06:50:18.295-07:002014-09-08T06:50:18.295-07:00Your honesty is compelling. I have mixed feelings ...Your honesty is compelling. I have mixed feelings about Joan. You've nicely identified some of them.Kasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05233330248952156754noreply@blogger.com